There is or has been a lane which crosses the lane to the lost lake or Llyn Alwen, a warning about this lane we are not sure about the legal ROW (dec 2006) and been unable to find out. Some claim its a UCR some a RUPP etc the council never got back to us. A visit to their office and the map was "missing". Its a nice lane but can be difficult at times scratchy and muddy in places, either way is possible, but watch the entrance on the east side its on dangerous bend. Ruts can be deep and nails wire etc have been found in them, near the cross roads were the "One arm bandit" hangs out. The west end has some nice water bogs and water crossing in Nant-y-Foel, popular with groups because often done the same time as the lost lake.
West point OS grid 2886430 354400 east OS grid 289180 353030
SH886544 SH891530
